Temurah 6b

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Topic

Whether בית דין takes back interest, and what אביי and רבא really argue about. Then, the prohibitions on blemished animals for the מזבח and why 'לה׳' is needed to include the שעיר המשתלח.

Overview

The amud opens with a ruling: אבק רבית is not taken back by בית דין, and רבי יוחנן says even רבית קצוצה is not. The גמרא had tried to link this to the argument of אביי and רבא about whether a forbidden act still takes effect. It rejects that link, because the interest argument comes from פסוקים. Three sources are brought for רבי יוחנן, and one source, 'וחי אחיך עמך', is brought for רבי אלעזר. So what do אביי and רבא argue about? One version says they argue only about the general starting rule. Another version says they argue about returning רבית קצוצה, but אביי's own case of the cloak shows he also takes it back, so the גמרא returns to the first answer. Then a new topic begins: a ברייתא lists the prohibitions on bringing a blemished animal to the מזבח, and it uses 'לה׳' to include the שעיר המשתלח. רבא explains why another ברייתא uses the same word to exclude it. The גמרא then asks why 'לה׳' is needed at all, since the lottery only works on fit animals. רב יוסף and רבא each answer with a case where a goat becomes the שעיר המשתלח without a lottery.

Opening lines

The steps (27)

1. StatementIs interest taken back by judges?
2. RejectionTheir argument is about verses, not logic
3. Proofרבי יצחק's verse: 'He shall not live'
4. Proofרב אחא בר אדא's verse: 'Fear your God'
5. Proofרבא's source: lenders compared to murderers
6. ProofThe verse behind רבי אלעזר's view
7. QuestionSo what do אביי and רבא argue about?
8. ResponseThey argue only about the general rule
9. ResponseAnother version: they argue about returning fixed interest
10. ChallengeBut אביי also holds fixed interest is taken back
11. ProofThe case of the cloak worth five for four
12. ConclusionBack to the first answer: they argue about whether a change takes effect
13. Statement'Do not offer' a blemished animal means 'do not consecrate' it
14. StatementThe list of prohibitions for a blemished animal brought to the altar
15. QuestionWhere is 'do not slaughter' written?
16. ResponseThe later verse teaches 'do not slaughter'
17. StatementDo not burn a blemished animal, not even part of it
18. StatementSprinkling the blood, and including the scapegoat
19. ChallengeDoes 'to the Lord' really include? A different ברייתא about slaughtering outside
20. ProofOnly what is fit for the אהל מועד brings liability for שחוטי חוץ
21. ChallengeThe other ברייתא uses 'to ה׳' to exclude the scapegoat
22. ResolutionIt depends on the words around 'to ה׳' in each verse
23. ChallengeWhy is a verse needed if the lottery only works on fit animals?
24. ResolutionThe ברייתא follows חנן המצרי, who allows pairing without a lottery
25. Challengeחנן המצרי never said the new goat skips the lottery
26. ResolutionThe ברייתא follows רבי שמעון, who says no lottery
27. ResolutionA goat blemished on יום כיפור with its holiness moved to another