Yevamos 62b
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Yevamot 62b
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Topic
Fulfilling פריה ורביה through children and grandchildren, continuing to have children in old age, and the value of marriage
Overview
The גמרא finishes testing רב הונא, who said a man whose children died has still done פריה ורביה. A ברייתא saying a child who died does not count refutes him. Next comes the question of which grandchildren count. אביי limits it, but רבא says any grandchildren who keep the world populated are enough. Everyone agrees, though, that two grandchildren from one child are not enough, and the story of רב ששת does not change that. The source for 'grandchildren are like children' is found in the פסוקים about מכיר. The גמרא then brings רבי יהושע, who says a man should keep having children even in old age, and רב מתנא rules like him. Along the way comes רבי עקיבא's teaching to keep teaching in old age, with the story of his 24,000 students who died. The amud ends with sayings praising marriage and a husband's duties to his wife and family.
Opening lines
בְּנֵי בָנִים הֲרֵי הֵן כְּבָנִים!
Grandchildren are like children!
כִּי תַּנְיָא הָהִיא, לְהַשְׁלִים.
When that was taught, it was for completing.
מֵיתִיבִי: בְּנֵי בָנִים הֲרֵי הֵם כְּבָנִים,
They challenged: Grandchildren are like children.
מֵת אֶחָד מֵהֶם אוֹ שֶׁנִּמְצָא סָרִיס —
If one of them died, or was found to be a eunuch,
The steps (35)
- ChallengeGrandchildren are like children: a challenge to רב הונא
- ResolutionThe ברייתא is only about completing the count
- ChallengeA ברייתא says a child who died does not count
- Conclusionרב הונא is refuted
- Statementאביי: which grandchildren count
- Rejectionרבא: the goal is a populated world
- StatementEveryone agrees: two grandchildren from one child are not enough
- Challengeרב ששת: my daughter's sons are my sons
- Resolutionרב ששת was only giving an excuse
- Questionרבה asks for the source that grandchildren are like children
- ResponseFirst suggestion: לבן's words to יעקב
- RejectionRejecting the proof from לבן
- ResponseThe real source: מכיר's lawgivers from יהודה
- StatementOur משנה is not like רבי יהושע
- StatementKeep learning and teaching in old age
- Statementרבי עקיבא's 24,000 students died
- Statementרבי עקיבא teaches five new students
- StatementThe students died between פסח and שבועות
- StatementThey died a bad death
- QuestionWhat is a bad death
- ResponseThe bad death was אסכרה
- ConclusionThe הלכה follows רבי יהושע
- StatementA man without a wife lacks joy, blessing, and goodness
- ProofVerses that prove each of the three losses
- StatementIn ארץ ישראל they add: without Torah and without a protective wall
- Statementרבא בר עולא adds: without peace
- StatementNeglecting a God-fearing wife makes a man a sinner
- StatementA husband must be close with his wife before a trip
- ChallengeWhy bring a new source when one already exists?
- ResolutionThe second source is for the time near her period
- QuestionHow close to her period?
- ResponseClose means one עונה
- StatementOnly for an optional trip, not a trip for a מצוה
- StatementLoving and honoring one's family brings a peaceful home
- StatementA second list: loving neighbors and relatives