Yevamos 85b

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Yevamot 85b

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Topic

Who keeps the כתובה in forbidden marriages, and the cases where the two reasons split; then a new משנה on when engagement, pregnancy, or waiting for a יבם affects eating תרומה and מעשר

Overview

The amud finishes a ברייתא about why some forbidden marriages still come with a כתובה and others do not. רבי שמעון בן אלעזר says it depends on whether the couple becomes disqualified. רבי says Torah bans need no extra penalty, while rabbinic bans like שניות do. A third reason, 'who encourages whom', is credited either to רבי שמעון בן אלעזר or to רבי, who added it because of the case of a חלוצה. The גמרא then looks for a case where these reasons give different results. It tries a ממזרת married to a regular Jew, a man who remarries his ex-wife after she married someone else, a בעולה married to a כהן גדול, and a ספק סוטה. Each case is rejected by some תנא's view that the marriage would harm her or her children. The case that finally holds up is a definite סוטה. A new משנה then teaches that engagement, pregnancy, or waiting for a יבם can take away a woman's right to eat תרומה or מעשר but can never give it. The גמרא asks why מעשר is mentioned at all, and answers that the משנה follows רבי מאיר, who forbids מעשר ראשון to non-Levites. The ברייתא that proves this comes on the next amud.

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The steps (22)

1. StatementWho gets penalized: the disqualified couple versus the fit couple
2. StatementTorah bans need no reinforcement, rabbinic bans do
3. StatementA third reason: who encourages whom
4. QuestionWhose opinion is the third reason?
5. ResponseFirst answer: רבי שמעון בן אלעזר explaining his own rule
6. ResponseSecond answer: רבי taught it, because of a problem from חלוצה
7. ChallengeA חלוצה is forbidden only by the rabbis, yet she gets a כתובה
8. Resolutionרבי adds: since the marriage disqualifies her, he is the one encouraging
9. QuestionWhat is the practical difference between the two opinions?
10. Responseרב חסדא: a ממזרת or נתינה married to a Jew
11. ChallengeAccording to רבי אליעזר she gains nothing
12. Responseרב יוסף: remarrying a divorcée after she married someone else
13. ChallengeAccording to רבי עקיבא her children would be ממזרים
14. Responseרב פפא: a בעולה married to a כהן גדול
15. ChallengeChallenge to רב פפא from רבי אליעזר בן יעקב
16. Responseרב אשי: a husband who takes back a ספק סוטה
17. ChallengeChallenge to רב אשי from רבי מתיא בן חרש
18. Responseמר בר רב אשי: a definite סוטה
19. StatementNew משנה: engagement, pregnancy or waiting for a יבם does not give the right to eat
20. StatementA לוי's daughter with a כהן, and a כהן's daughter with a לוי, eat neither
21. ChallengeWhy Mention מעשר? Even a Non-Levite May Eat It
22. ResolutionThe משנה Follows רבי מאיר: מעשר ראשון Is Forbidden to Non-Levites