Yoma 58a

יומא נ״ח ע״א

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Topic

Mixing the blood of the פר and the שעיר on יום כיפור, and whether a bowl inside a bowl or bast inside a bowl counts as a חציצה

Overview

This amud finishes a ברייתא in which רבי יאשיה and רבי יונתן argue about the blood of the פר and the שעיר on יום כיפור. רבי יאשיה says the כהן גדול mixes the two bloods before sprinkling on the golden altar. רבי יונתן says each blood is sprinkled by itself. Each brings a פסוק, and רבי יונתן explains "אחת" as one set from each blood. A second, unnamed ברייתא supports mixing, and the גמרא says it follows רבי יאשיה, just like our משנה. Then the גמרא returns to the משנה's line "he placed the full into the empty." רמי בר חמא asks רב חסדא whether a מזרק placed inside another מזרק counts as a חציצה. Proofs from the משנה and from a כהן standing on a friend's foot are both pushed away. In a second version the question is whether this is a proper דרך שירות, and the answer is yes: "two vessels and one service." Finally רמי בר חמא asks about bast (palm fiber) inside the bowl. The proof from a sponge in מי חטאת is rejected because water is thin. In a second version רב חסדא rules that it is כשר with blood, which seeps through, but פסול with a קומץ, which cannot pass through.

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The steps (20)

1. Statementרבי יונתן: each blood is sprinkled separately
2. Challengeרבי יאשיה challenges: the verse says 'once'
3. Challengeרבי יונתן counters with 'the blood of the bull and the blood of the goat'
4. Resolutionרבי יונתן explains 'once': one set per blood
5. StatementAnother ברייתא: the bloods should be mixed
6. ConclusionThe unnamed ברייתא follows רבי יאשיה
7. StatementBack to the משנה: pouring the full bowl into the empty one
8. QuestionA bowl inside a bowl: does it count as a barrier?
9. Proofרב חסדא tries to answer from the משנה
10. RejectionThe משנה means pouring, not setting inside
11. ChallengePouring was already mentioned earlier in the משנה
12. ResolutionA second pouring to mix the blood well
13. ProofProof from a כהן standing on a vessel or a friend's foot
14. RejectionA foot is different because it cannot be nullified
15. QuestionSecond version: is this a proper way of doing the service
16. ResponseTwo vessels, one service
17. QuestionBast inside the bowl: does it block the blood?
18. ProofProof from the sponge in the מי חטאת
19. RejectionWater is thin, but blood is thick
20. ResponseSecond version: blood is valid, a handful of flour is not