Zevachim 107b

זבחים ק״ז ע״ב

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Topic

Liability for doing קרבן rites outside the עזרה: where it is learned from, how the חטאות are counted, where 'outside' begins, and whether it applies today.

Overview

The amud opens by finishing a discussion about which קרבן rites make a person liable when done outside the בית המקדש. The גמרא shows that you cannot learn this liability from what two rites share (צד השוה), because the תורה wrote a separate פסוק for זריקה. רבי אבהו then counts how many חטאות a person brings for doing several rites outside, according to רבי ישמעאל and רבי עקיבא. אביי disagrees, saying the פסוק ״שָׁם תַּעֲלֶה... שָׁם תַּעֲשֶׂה״ sets the count for everyone. A ברייתא uses the words 'in the camp' and 'outside the camp' to mark the exact line: slaughtering outside the עזרה is punished, while slaughtering in the wrong spot inside it, like an עולה in the south, is not. עולא and רבא then argue about slaughtering on the roof of the היכל. Next, רבי יוחנן and ריש לקיש argue whether offering outside is punished today, which depends on whether the first holiness of the מקדש lasts forever. They argue again about whether a bone attached to the meat counts toward a כזית. The amud ends as רבא begins a new question that continues on the next amud.

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The steps (31)

1. ChallengeSuggestion: learn it from what the two cases share
2. RejectionIf so, the verse about sprinkling would be unnecessary
3. ProofWorking out how sprinkling could have been derived
4. ConclusionThe verse was written to block learning from the common element
5. Statementרבי אבהו: Slaughtering and sprinkling outside
6. Rejectionאביי: Even רבי עקיבא says only once
7. Statementרבי אבהו: Sprinkling and offering up outside
8. Rejectionאביי: Even רבי עקיבא says twice
9. StatementDoing all three services outside: everyone says two
10. StatementA ברייתא: slaughtering an עולה in the south is not punished
11. QuestionIs someone only liable outside all three camps?
12. ConclusionBoth phrases together set the exact line
13. ConclusionWhy the south of the courtyard does not count
14. Statementעולא: slaughtering on the roof of the Sanctuary makes one liable
15. Challengeרבא: the words 'entrance of the Tent of Meeting' exclude the roof
16. ChallengeThe same question turned against רבא
17. Resolutionרב מרי: 'in the camp' covers an animal with its neck outside
18. ChallengeNeck outside is obvious
19. ResolutionBody outside, neck inside
20. StatementOffering outside today: a dispute
21. StatementDoes the first holiness last forever?
22. QuestionIs this an older argument?
23. ProofCurtains while building the מקדש
24. Proofרבי יהושע: the first holiness lasts forever
25. ResponseSo רבי אליעזר must hold the holiness ended
26. Rejectionרבינא: maybe they both agree
27. ChallengeThen why did רבי אליעזר need curtains?
28. ResolutionThe curtains were only for privacy
29. StatementNew dispute: bone completing an olive-size
30. StatementThe reason behind each side: does an attached bone count?
31. Questionרבא begins a new question