Zevachim 30a

זבחים ל׳ ע״א

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Topic

Mixed intentions in עבודה (רבי יוחנן and אילפא), and whether the first name or thought decides: the תמורה of an עולה and a שלמים, אביי and רבא, and רב דימי's link to רבי יהודה.

Overview

The amud opens by finishing an answer from the previous page: the רישא of the משנה is about two עבודות, while the סיפא covers one עבודה and two. The words 'זה הכלל' in רבי יהודה's ruling fit רבי יוחנן but are hard to explain for אילפא, and the גמרא leaves this as a קשיא. Then the גמרא quotes a משנה from מסכת תמורה. There, רבי מאיר says that if someone names one animal 'the תמורה of an עולה, the תמורה of a שלמים', only the first name counts. רבי יוסי says both names count if he planned both from the start. The גמרא asks what happens if both names are said together or if he says he wants to split the animal. אביי says רבי מאיר agrees in that case, and רבא says they still argue. רבא challenges אביי from שחיטה, and the גמרא adds challenges from קמיצה and the מנחת חוטא. Each time, אביי's side answers that the act can be divided into parts: two סימנים, the קומץ and the לבונה, or the steps of walking to the מזבח. The גמרא reports that some teachers followed אביי and others followed רבא. Finally רב דימי says רבי מאיר is following רבי יהודה's rule 'תפוס לשון ראשון', and he proves it from the משנה about פיגול.

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The steps (18)

1. ResolutionThe first clause is about two rites, the last clause is about both
2. ChallengeThe words 'this is the general rule' fit רבי יוחנן but not אילפא
3. ConclusionThe challenge against אילפא stands
4. StatementA משנה in תמורה: one animal named for both an עולה and a שלמים
5. Statementרבי יוסי: it depends on what he planned from the start
6. QuestionTwo new questions about naming both offerings
7. Responseאביי: here רבי מאיר agrees
8. Responseרבא: they still argue
9. Challengeרבא challenges אביי from our משנה about שחיטה
10. Resolutionאביי: שחיטה happens step by step
11. ChallengeChallenge from taking a handful of a meal offering
12. ResolutionThe argument is about burning two separate items
13. ChallengeChallenge from the sinner's meal offering, which has no frankincense
14. ResolutionFirst answer: there is no argument there
15. Resolutionרב אשי: if they argue, it is about the steps of walking
16. ConclusionTwo teachers pass down the teaching in two different ways
17. Statementרב דימי: רבי מאיר is following רבי יהודה's rule
18. ProofProof from the משנה about פיגול