Arachin 23a

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Arakhin 23a

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Topic

A divorce after giving property to הקדש, or with a guarantor for the כתובה: the worry of קינוניא, the debate over why רבי אליעזר and רבי יהושע disagree, and the story of רב הונא.

Overview

The משנה discusses a man who gave all his property to הקדש while he still owes his wife her כתובה. רבי אליעזר says that if he divorces her, he must make a נדר הנאה so he cannot remarry her. רבי יהושע says this is not needed. רבן שמעון בן גמליאל applies the same worry to a ערב (guarantor) for the כתובה. The גמרא first explains that the argument is about whether people plot (קינוניא) against הקדש. It answers רב הונא's ruling about a dying man by limiting the argument to a healthy person. Next it tries explaining the argument through vows made in public or על דעת רבים. It rejects those explanations because of אמימר's ruling and רבי יהושע's wording "אינו צריך." It concludes that the argument is about undoing a הקדש through שאלה, and a ברייתא links this to בית שמאי and בית הלל on הקדש made by mistake. Finally, a story tells of אביי's idea to help the poor רב הונא get money from his father, who had guaranteed the כתובה. The גמרא discusses רבא's objection, whether the advice was proper, and whether a guarantor of a כתובה must pay at all. That last question is answered on the next amud.

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The steps (21)

1. StatementA man consecrates his property while owing his wife's כתובה
2. Statementרבן שמעון בן גמליאל: the same worry with a guarantor
3. QuestionWhat is the root of the argument?
4. ResponseDo people plot against הקדש?
5. Challengeרב הונא's ruling seems to take a side in the argument
6. ResolutionEveryone agrees about a dying man
7. ResponseAnother version: they argue about a vow made in public
8. ResponseAnother option: they argue about a vow made on the public's consent
9. ChallengeChallenge: אמימר's ruling would become a matter of argument
10. ChallengeChallenge: רבי יהושע's wording does not fit
11. ResolutionFinal answer: they argue about undoing a הקדש through שאלה
12. ProofA ברייתא links the two sages to בית שמאי and בית הלל
13. ConclusionThe argument is about הקדש made by mistake
14. Statementרבן שמעון בן גמליאל's ruling and the story of רב הונא
15. Statementאביי suggests a plan to help רב הונא
16. Challengeרבא objects: the משנה requires a vow
17. Resolutionאביי: he can divorce outside of בית דין
18. Conclusionרב הונא turns out to be a כהן
19. ChallengeDid אביי really give such tricky advice?
20. ResolutionA son and a Torah scholar are different
21. ChallengeA guarantor of a כתובה is not bound to pay anyway