Arachin 23b

ערכין כ״ג ע״ב

Arakhin 23b

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Topic

Guarantors for a כתובה, collecting debts from הקדש, and what a person who owes ערכין may keep

Overview

The amud opens by finishing the story of רב הונא, whose father משה בר עצרי had guaranteed his כתובה. The גמרא says the father was a קַבְּלָן, a stronger guarantor, and gives two ways this works even though רב הונא was poor. It then quotes the full מחלוקת about which guarantors are bound, and rules that every guarantor is bound except an ordinary עָרֵב for a כתובה. Next comes a case about a wife who collects her כתובה from a buyer. רב פפא and the Sages of נהרדעא disagree about whether the husband must vow not to remarry her in that case. A new משנה teaches that a wife and a creditor cannot collect directly from הקדש. Instead, the property is redeemed, even for one דינר, and the גמרא explains why and how far this method reaches. A second משנה lists what the treasurer leaves for someone who owes ערכין: food, clothes, a bed, sandals, תפילין and work tools. The גמרא begins to give the פסוק behind this, and the quote continues on the next amud.

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The steps (24)

1. ResolutionThe father was a stronger kind of guarantor
2. ChallengeThis only works for one view of a קַבְּלָן
3. ResolutionFirst answer: רב הונא once had property
4. ResolutionSecond answer: a father commits fully for his son
5. StatementThe full disagreement about guarantors
6. ConclusionThe final ruling and its reason
7. QuestionA new case: what if the wife collects from a buyer?
8. Responseרב פפא: the משנה does not list every case
9. StatementThe Sages of נהרדעא: only the cases taught
10. StatementWhy הקדש and the guarantor need protection
11. ResponseThe buyer brought the loss on himself
12. StatementNew משנה: a wife and a creditor cannot collect from הקדש
13. StatementWhen the debt is bigger than the property, add a dinar
14. QuestionWhy does the property need to be redeemed at all
15. ResponseSo people will not think הקדש leaves without redemption
16. StatementOur משנה disagrees with רבן שמעון בן גמליאל
17. QuestionHow big a gap do the רבנן allow
18. ResponseUp to half
19. StatementWhat a person who owes ערכין may keep
20. StatementA craftsman keeps two tools of each kind
21. StatementA farmer keeps his oxen and a donkey driver keeps his donkey
22. StatementMany of one tool and few of another
23. StatementOne who gives all his property to הקדש loses even his תפילין
24. QuestionThe גמרא asks for the source of these allowances