Chullin 102a

חולין ק״ב ע״א

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Topic

Which animals אבר מן החי applies to (for Jews and for בני נח), and the כזית needed to be liable.

Overview

The amud opens with an argument over whether אבר מן החי (a limb cut from a living animal) applies to non-kosher animals. רבי יהודה and רבי אלעזר say yes, because wherever blood is forbidden, limbs are forbidden too. The רבנן say it applies only to animals whose meat is permitted. The גמרא explains that רבי יהודה does not really need the פסוק, since for him one איסור can take hold on another. A ברייתא then lists three views: רבי אלעזר includes every animal and bird, the חכמים include only kosher species, and רבי מאיר includes only a kosher בהמה, based on "מבקרך ומצאנך". רב says the whole argument is only about Jews, while a בן נח is forbidden even from non-kosher animals. A ברייתא and a משנה about a non-kosher bird support this. Finally, רב rules that one is liable for אבר מן החי only for eating a כזית. The גמרא defends this against a challenge and then begins another challenge that continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

The steps (21)

1. ResponseWhy רבי יהודה and רבי אלעזר include non-kosher animals
2. StatementThe Rabbis limit the prohibition to kosher animals
3. ChallengeWhy does רבי יהודה need a verse at all?
4. ResolutionThe verse is needed only for רבי אלעזר
5. ProofA ברייתא confirms that רבי אלעזר derives the rule from the פסוק
6. StatementThe חכמים limit the prohibition to kosher species
7. Statementרבי מאיר limits the prohibition to kosher domesticated animals only
8. QuestionWhat is רבי מאיר's source?
9. ResponseThe source: slaughter from your cattle and your sheep
10. StatementThe argument is only about Jews; for בני נח everyone agrees
11. ProofA ברייתא supports רב גידל
12. StatementTwo versions of the ברייתא's wording
13. Proofרב שיזבי brings a proof from a משנה
14. QuestionWho is the משנה talking about?
15. ConclusionSo the משנה is about a בן נח, who is forbidden
16. ChallengeThe first half and second half of the משנה seem to clash
17. ResolutionFirst half is about a Jew, second half is about a non-Jew
18. Statementאבר מן החי needs a כזית
19. ChallengeIf he ate a כזית, he should get lashes anyway
20. ResolutionThe limb was mostly sinews and bones
21. ChallengeSetting up another challenge from a different statement of רב