Chullin 102b

חולין ק״ב ע״ב

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Topic

How much must one eat to be liable for אבר מן החי (a limb from a living creature)? The גמרא challenges the view (stated before this section, attributed to רב) that a כזית is needed, using two ברייתות that seem to say even a tiny amount is enough.

Overview

The amud opens by answering a challenge from רב's own statement, which says that a live kosher bird makes one liable for any amount. The גמרא explains that the meat may be tiny, but together with the sinews and bones it adds up to a כזית. Next comes a ברייתא where רבי and רבי אלעזר ברבי שמעון argue about someone who ate a whole live bird smaller than a כזית. רב נחמן gives the same answer: a little meat plus sinews and bones. The גמרא then asks whether such a bird exists, and the answer is a kosher bird built like the bony קלניתא. רבא then shows how 'thought about food' could change the result for each תנא, and he defends this against אביי: each person is judged by his own thought. Finally, רבי יוחנן and ריש לקיש argue over which פסוק forbids אבר מן החי, בשר מן החי and בשר מן הטרפה. The גמרא shows how their views change the number of sets of lashes. It then begins to raise a contradiction, which continues on the next amud.

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The steps (19)

1. ChallengeA teaching that a live bird is forbidden in any amount
2. ResolutionA little meat plus sinews and bones
3. Challengeרבי and רבי אלעזר ברבי שמעון argue about a whole small bird
4. ChallengeEven רבי seems to need no כזית
5. Resolutionרב נחמן: a little meat plus sinews and bones
6. ChallengeCan one limb have a כזית when the whole bird does not?
7. ResolutionYes, a very small, scrawny bird
8. ChallengeBut a קלניתא is not a kosher bird
9. ResolutionA kosher bird similar to a קלניתא
10. StatementPlanning to eat it limb by limb makes him liable
11. ChallengeHow can the same act make one person liable and not another?
12. ResolutionEach person is judged by his own thought
13. Statementרבא's mirror case: planned to eat it dead, but ate it alive
14. Challengeאביי asks again: can one person be exempt for what makes another liable?
15. Resolutionרבא answers: each person is judged by his own thought
16. Statementרבי יוחנן's sources for a limb and flesh from a living animal
17. Statementריש לקיש puts flesh from a living animal under the first verse
18. StatementHow many sets of lashes: three combinations
19. ChallengeSetting up a contradiction to the 'everyone agrees' case