Chullin 112b

חולין קי״ב ע״ב

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Topic

Blood and juices given out by roasting and salting: the knife-pressure distinction, fish salted with birds, and kosher meat salted with טרפה meat

Overview

This amud opens with the last word of an earlier instruction: tilt the vessel to pour the fat off the drippings from roasting meat. רב אחא בריה דרב איקא challenges רב אשי by setting two statements of שמואל against each other. שמואל holds that roasted meat whose redness is gone no longer gives out blood, yet he forbids a loaf of bread that roasted meat was cut on. רב אשי answers that the pressure of the knife squeezes out extra blood. Next, רב נחמן rules that fish and birds salted together are forbidden. The גמרא explains that the case is a vessel with holes: the soft-skinned fish finish giving out their blood first, and then they absorb the blood the hard-skinned birds are still giving out. Finally, kosher meat salted together with טרפה meat is brought to רבא. He forbids it, learning from the word "הטמאים" that the juice of non-kosher meat is also forbidden.

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The steps (8)

1. StatementFinishing the instruction: tilt the vessel to pour off the fat
2. ChallengeDid שמואל really say that? The loaf of bread cut with meat
3. ResolutionThe knife's pressure squeezes out blood
4. Statementרב נחמן: fish and birds salted together are forbidden
5. ChallengeWhat case? Neither kind of vessel seems to fit
6. ResolutionA vessel with holes, but the timing differs
7. QuestionKosher meat salted with טרפה meat is brought to רבא
8. Responseרבא forbids the meat because the juice of non-kosher food is also forbidden