Gittin 74a
גיטין ע״ד ע״א
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Topic
Conditional גיטין: the sick husband's גט, and a גט or קידושין 'on condition' of payment (רב הונא vs. רב יהודה)
Overview
The amud opens by finishing a ברייתא about a sick husband who gives a גט that works only if he dies. רבי יהודה says that until then she is fully his wife. רבי מאיר says her relations with another man are 'hanging'. רבי יוסי says they are a ספק. חכמים say she is 'divorced and not divorced'. The גמרא explains that רבי מאיר and רבי יוסי differ over an אשם תלוי, and that חכמים differ from רבי יוסי over the husband's duty to support her. A new משנה then teaches a גט given 'on condition that you give me two hundred זוז', the same condition with a thirty-day deadline, and the lost-coat case in צידן. רב הונא says the divorce works now and she must still pay. רב יהודה says it works only once she pays. They hold the same views about קידושין, and the גמרא explains why both cases had to be taught. A ברייתא seems to refute רב יהודה, and he answers that it follows רבי while he follows the רבנן. רבי זירא then reports that רבי יוחנן said everyone agrees 'על מנת' is like 'מעכשיו', which undercuts that answer.
Opening lines
וּמִטַּמֵּא לָהּ.
And he becomes impure for her.
כְּלָלוֹ שֶׁל דָּבָר:
The general rule of the matter is:
הֲרֵי הִיא כְּאִשְׁתּוֹ לְכׇל דָּבָר –
She is like his wife in every way,
אֶלָּא שֶׁאֵינָהּ צְרִיכָה הֵימֶנּוּ גֵּט שֵׁנִי,
except that she does not need a second גט from him,
The steps (27)
- Statementרבי יהודה: until he dies, she is fully his wife
- StatementThree other views: hanging, doubtful, or divorced-and-not-divorced
- QuestionWhat is the difference between רבי מאיר and רבי יוסי?
- Responseרבי יוחנן: the difference is an אשם תלוי
- QuestionAren't חכמים saying the same thing as רבי יוסי?
- ResponseThe difference is the husband's duty to support her
- StatementA divorce on condition that she pays two hundred זוז
- StatementThe same condition with a thirty-day deadline
- StatementThe lost coat in צידן
- QuestionWhat does 'and she must give' mean?
- Responseרב הונא and רב יהודה disagree on the meaning
- QuestionWhat is the practical difference between them?
- ResponseA torn or lost גט before she pays
- StatementThe same wording appears in a משנה about קידושין
- StatementThe same מחלוקת about 'and he must give'
- QuestionWhat is the practical difference in קידושין?
- ResponseShe accepted קידושין from another man before he paid
- StatementWhy רב הונא's view must be stated for divorce too
- StatementWhy רב הונא's view must be stated for betrothal too
- StatementWhy רב יהודה's view must be stated for divorce too
- ConclusionWhy רב יהודה's view must be stated for betrothal too, so both cases are needed
- ChallengeA ברייתא: the גט works even if it was torn or lost
- ChallengeSecond part of the ברייתא: the husband died before she paid
- ChallengeBoth opinions treat it as a real condition, so רב יהודה seems refuted
- Resolutionרב יהודה: the ברייתא follows רבי, and I hold like the רבנן
- StatementWhat they used to say in בבל
- ChallengeIn ארץ ישראל: everyone agrees about 'on condition'