Kereisos 13b

כריתות י״ג ע״ב

Keritot 13b

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Topic

A woman's milk and טומאה; the איסור for a כהן to drink wine before the עבודה and for anyone to rule after drinking; and one act of eating that brings many korbanot.

Overview

The amud opens by finishing a ברייתא about the fluids of a זב and זבה. Because a woman's milk only gives ordinary טומאת משקין with a רביעית, the גמרא concludes that milk does not come from a מעיין. It then explains that the משנה's phrase 'not wanted' means only that the baby gave no sign, since babies naturally want milk. Next, the גמרא explains the משנה about a כהן who ate or drank before entering the מקדש. A ברייתא gives three readings of 'יין ושכר אל תשת': the תנא קמא, רבי יהודה (who includes other intoxicants), and רבי אלעזר (only wine drunk the intoxicating way). The הלכה follows רבי אלעזר, and a story with רב אשי limits his leniency to a רביעית. Another ברייתא lists which kinds of teaching are forbidden after drinking wine, and רב rules like רבי יוסי ברבי יהודה that only actual rulings are forbidden. Finally, a new משנה shows how one act of eating can bring four חטאות and one אשם, and רבי מאיר and the חכמים argue over adding carrying on שבת.

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The steps (40)

1. StatementEnd of the ברייתא: milk versus saliva and discharge
2. ChallengeIf milk came from a spring, it should be severe
3. ConclusionSo the place of milk is not a spring
4. ChallengeThen what about the משנה רבא quoted?
5. Resolution'Not wanted' means no clear sign either way
6. ChallengeWhy does the משנה need him to 'remain'?
7. Resolution'Remaining' means the time spent eating and drinking
8. QuestionDoes the פסוק forbid even a tiny amount, or fresh wine?
9. Response'שכר' limits it to an amount that can make you drunk
10. ChallengeThen why does the פסוק say 'wine'?
11. Resolution'Wine' teaches that even a little, or fresh wine, is still forbidden
12. Questionרבי יהודה asks where other intoxicating drinks are included
13. ResponseThe word 'ושכר' includes other intoxicating drinks
14. ChallengeWhy does the פסוק still need the word 'wine'?
15. ResolutionWine brings death; other drinks are only a prohibition
16. Statementרבי אלעזר: forbidden only when drunk in the intoxicating way
17. QuestionWhat is the root of their disagreement?
18. ResponseThe תנא קמא learns 'שכר' from נזיר
19. Responseרבי יהודה does not learn from נזיר
20. Responseרבי אלעזר: 'שכר' means 'something that intoxicates'
21. QuestionWhose view is the ברייתא about figs, honey and milk?
22. ResponseIt follows רבי יהודה
23. StatementThe הלכה follows רבי אלעזר
24. Statementרב אשי will not release a נדר after drinking wine
25. ChallengeBut you diluted your wine with water
26. ResolutionWater only helps for a רביעית
27. Statement'ולהבדיל בין הקדש ובין החול' means דמין, ערכין, חרמין and הקדשות
28. StatementThe rest of the verse: what else a drunk person may not teach
29. StatementTeaching משנה is allowed
30. Statementרבי יוסי son of רבי יהודה: even תלמוד is allowed
31. QuestionWhose view allows ruling on a שרץ and a frog?
32. RejectionEven the Rabbis agree: basic facts are not a ruling
33. Statementרב rules like רבי יוסי son of רבי יהודה
34. ChallengeBut רב himself stopped lecturing on יום טוב
35. Resolutionרב was different: he gave rulings
36. ChallengeThen let him lecture without ruling
37. ResolutionWherever רב sat, rulings followed
38. StatementOne bite, four sin offerings and one guilt offering
39. Statementרבי מאיר adds a fifth sin offering for carrying on שבת
40. RejectionThe חכמים reject the addition because carrying is a different kind of sin