Kesubos 101a

כתובות ק״א ע״א

Ketubot 101a

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Topic

What a ממאנת, a שניה and an איילונית lose when they leave a marriage: the dispute about the כתובה, worn-out property, and the basic כתובה versus the תוספת

Overview

This amud finishes שמואל's list of differences between a girl who leaves her marriage by מיאון and one who leaves with a גט. The גמרא explains that his real new point is the three-month wait. Next it asks whether רב and שמואל, who argue about whether a ממאנת gets a כתובה, are repeating the dispute between רבי אליעזר and רבי יהושע. It concludes that both follow רבי יהושע and only read him differently. Then the גמרא turns to worn-out property (בלאות). שמואל's split between נכסי מלוג and נכסי צאן ברזל fits only the שניה, where the חכמים penalized both spouses. From this, רב שימי בר אשי learns that a cloak a wife brings is principal, and רב נחמן disagrees. Finally, שמואל teaches that 'no כתובה' means only the basic 100 or 200, not the תוספת, and a ברייתא confirms it. The ברייתא's last line supports רב הונא, whose statement continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

The steps (20)

1. StatementA divorced minor must wait three months
2. ChallengeWhy did שמואל need to say this? A משנה already teaches it
3. ResolutionThe three-month wait is the new point
4. StatementIs this an older dispute between תנאים? רבי אליעזר's view
5. Statementרבי יהושע: A minor's marriage counts
6. QuestionSuggesting that רב and שמואל match the two תנאים
7. RejectionAccording to רבי אליעזר, everyone agrees
8. ResolutionThey disagree over how to read רבי יהושע
9. Statementשמואל limits the rule of no worn-out items to usufruct property
10. Questionרב פפא asks which woman שמואל meant
11. RejectionIt cannot be about the girl who refuses
12. RejectionIt cannot be about the איילונית either
13. ResolutionIt refers to the secondary relative, where both sides are penalized
14. StatementA wife's cloak is principal, so the husband may not wear it out
15. ChallengeBut רב נחמן says using the cloak counts as produce
16. Resolutionרב נחמן simply holds a different view
17. StatementOnly the basic כתובה is lost, not the extra amount
18. ProofA ברייתא supports שמואל
19. StatementThe second half of the ברייתא: women who break the rules lose everything
20. ProofThe ברייתא supports רב הונא