Kesubos 58a

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Ketubot 58a

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Topic

An ארוסה and תרומה: עולא vs. רב שמואל בר רב יהודה, אביי's limits on רבי טרפון and רבי עקיבא, the יבם, and the משנה ראשונה

Overview

This amud opens with the end of a ברייתא about selling a slave. Small flaws in a slave do not cancel the sale, and big flaws are publicly known, so סימפון is not a worry with slaves. The גמרא then asks how עולא differs from רב שמואל בר רב יהודה. עולא worries about wine in her father's house, and רב שמואל בר רב יהודה worries about סימפון. The answer is that they differ in the cases of קיבל, מסר and הלך. Next, אביי limits the argument between רבי טרפון and רבי עקיבא about feeding a betrothed woman תרומה: it covers only a בת כהן and only an ארוסה. A ברייתא supports him and adds more opinions, and רבי יהודה and רבן שמעון בן גמליאל differ only over the effort of selling תרומה. The גמרא then explains from the פסוק 'קנין כספו' why a יבם does not let his יבמה eat תרומה. It also explains that the משנה orders its cases as 'זו ואין צריך לומר זו'. Finally, it gives סימפון as the reason the later משנה delays תרומה until the חופה. It begins to check this against עולא's view, and the challenge continues on the next amud.

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The steps (22)

1. ProofA gambler slave: the buyer is stuck with the sale
2. ConclusionSerious flaws are publicly known, so slaves have no real סימפון
3. QuestionWhat is the difference between עולא and רב שמואל בר רב יהודה?
4. ResponseThe difference: he accepted her flaws, or she was handed over
5. StatementQuoting the משנה: רבי טרפון says all תרומה
6. Statementאביי: the argument is only about a בת כהן
7. Statementאביי: the argument is only about an ארוסה, not a married woman
8. ProofA ברייתא supports both of אביי's limits
9. Statementרבי יהודה בן בתירא: two parts תרומה, one part חולין
10. Statementרבי יהודה and רבן שמעון בן גמליאל: all תרומה, but enough to trade
11. QuestionHow do רבי יהודה and רבן שמעון בן גמליאל differ?
12. ResponseThe difference is the effort of selling
13. StatementThe משנה: a יבם does not let her eat תרומה
14. QuestionWhat is the reason?
15. ResponseShe is his brother's acquisition, not his
16. StatementQuoting the case of six months with the husband
17. ChallengeWhy mention the יבם case at all?
18. ResolutionThe משנה uses the style 'this, and needless to say that'
19. StatementQuoting 'this was the first version of the משנה'
20. QuestionWhy did the later version change the rule?
21. ResponseThe reason: fear of a hidden flaw that cancels the marriage
22. ChallengeFor עולא, each ruling has its own reason