Kesubos 6b
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Ketubot 6b
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Topic
May a groom have first relations with his בתולה bride on שבת? The גמרא works through the חתן's exemption from קריאת שמע, a dispute of תנאים, and רבי שמעון's rule of דבר שאין מתכוין.
Overview
The גמרא asks whether a groom may have first relations with his בתולה bride on שבת, even though there may be bleeding. רבא reads the ברייתא about 'four nights until מוצאי שבת' as speaking of a groom who already had relations. On that reading it teaches, like שמואל's narrow opening, that later relations are allowed on שבת. רב יוסף objects from the משנה that a חתן is פטור from קריאת שמע through שבת. אביי answers that the exemption comes from the groom's worry, but רבא shows that worry alone does not exempt anyone, since even an אבל is חייב in all the מצוות. רבא then says the question is a dispute of תנאים, shown by two ברייתות about the third night. The same dispute appears openly in another ברייתא, where the חכמים permit first relations on שבת. רבה explains that the חכמים follow רבי שמעון's rule of דבר שאין מתכוין. He adds that this is not פסיק רישיה, because most men are skilled enough to avoid bleeding, and the groomsmen and sheet only guard against hiding blood. Finally, רבי אמי begins a new challenge from a משנה about draining an abscess on שבת, which continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
מַאי לָאו: דְּאִי לֹא בָּעַל,
What, is it not that if he did not yet have relations,
מָצֵי בָּעֵיל אֲפִילּוּ בְּשַׁבָּת.
he may have relations even on שבת?
אָמַר רָבָא: לָא, לְבַר מִשַּׁבָּת.
Rava said: No, it means except for שבת.
אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי:
Abaye said to him:
The steps (24)
- ProofProof that first relations are allowed on שבת
- Rejectionרבא: The ברייתא means every day except שבת
- Challengeאביי: But the four nights include שבת
- Resolutionרבא: The ברייתא is about a groom who already had relations
- ChallengeThen what does the ברייתא teach us?
- ResolutionIt teaches that relations are allowed on שבת, like שמואל's narrow opening
- Challengeרב יוסף: The חתן is exempt from שמע through שבת
- Rejectionאביי: He is worried because he has not yet done it
- Challengeרבא: Does worry alone exempt a person?
- ChallengeEven an אבל is חייב in all the מצוות except תפילין
- Proofרבא: This is a dispute between two ברייתות
- Rejectionאביי: The ברייתות only disagree about worry
- ProofThe same dispute appears in another ברייתא
- QuestionWho are the חכמים who permit it?
- Responseרבה: it follows רבי שמעון
- Challengeאביי: רבי שמעון agrees when the result is certain
- ResolutionSome men are skilled enough to avoid bleeding
- ChallengeThen why is the חתן worried?
- ResolutionThe worry is for the unskilled
- ChallengeThen the rule should separate skilled and unskilled
- ResolutionMost men are skilled
- ChallengeThen why groomsmen and a sheet?
- ResolutionThe checks guard against hiding the evidence
- Challengeרבי אמי challenges from the case of draining an abscess on שבת