Kesubos 7a
כתובות ז׳ ע״א
Ketubot 7a
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Topic
A first בעילה on שבת and יום טוב, and the wedding ברכה for an אלמנה
Overview
This amud finishes a proof from opening an abscess on שבת. The גמרא rejects it: pus in an abscess is fully separated from the body, but the blood of בתולים is not. Next come practical rulings. רבי אמי, רב זביד and רב יהודה all allowed a first בעילה, and רבא's view on שבת is reported in two opposite versions. רב פפא's version, which forbids it on שבת, leads to a debate about which מלאכות are allowed on יום טוב. Incense is excluded, and a deer is included, because only things every person needs are allowed. רבי יוחנן forbade a first בעילה on שבת, but the final הלכה is that it is permitted. The amud then turns to ברכת חתנים for an אלמנה. A בחור who marries her says the ברכה for seven days, and an אלמון who marries her says it for one day. Three days of rejoicing are a separate count from the days of ברכה.
Opening lines
פָּטוּר.
he is exempt.
הָתָם, פְּקִיד וַעֲקִיר.
There, it is gathered and detached.
הָכָא, פְּקִיד וְלָא עֲקִיר.
Here, it is gathered but not detached.
רַבִּי אַמֵּי שְׁרָא
Rabbi Ami permitted
The steps (28)
- ProofEnd of the proof from opening an abscess
- RejectionThe abscess is different: its pus is fully separated
- Statementרבי אמי allows a first בעילה on שבת
- ChallengeThe רבנן object: her כתובה is not written yet
- Resolutionרבי אמי: let her hold movable property
- Statementרב זביד allows it too, and maybe did it himself
- Statementרב יהודה allows it on יום טוב
- StatementThe same is true on שבת
- StatementA second version: allowed on יום טוב, forbidden on שבת
- ChallengeIf wounding is allowed on יום טוב, then incense should be too
- ResolutionOnly things shared by every person are allowed
- ChallengeWhat about a deer, which not everyone has?
- ResolutionThe rule is about what everyone needs, not what everyone has
- Statementרבי יוחנן ruled in צידן: no first בעילה on שבת
- ChallengeCan a stringent ruling be called a 'הוראה'?
- ResolutionYes, 'הוֹרָה' is used for strict rulings too
- ProofA second proof: רבי ruled strictly like רבי יעקב
- Statementרב הונא: the הלכה is not like רבי יעקב
- StatementAnother version: רבי יוחנן was asked and said it is forbidden
- ConclusionFinal ruling: a first בעילה on שבת is permitted
- StatementBoth a בתולה and an אלמנה need a ברכה
- ChallengeDid רב הונא really say that?
- ResolutionBachelor versus widower
- ChallengeChallenge from בועז, a widower who married a widow
- ResolutionNo ברכה for seven days, but yes for one day
- ChallengeA ברייתא about three days of rejoicing fits neither case
- ResolutionFirst answer: a widower has one day of ברכה but three days of שמחה
- ResolutionSecond answer: a bachelor has seven days of ברכה but three days of שמחה