Menachos 74b
מנחות ע״ד ע״ב
Menachot 74b
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Topic
Offerings that go entirely to the מזבח or entirely to the כהנים, and the three placements of oil for מנחות made in a כלי
Overview
The amud opens by finishing a question: does the לאו of ״כליל תהיה״ cover anything that must be burned completely, or only the מנחת כהן? רב אהרן answers from a ברייתא of רבי אליעזר that it covers everything that must be burned completely. A new משנה then gives two mirror lists. Three מנחות go entirely to the מזבח, and שתי הלחם and לחם הפנים go entirely to the כהנים. The גמרא tests each list against other offerings, such as the עולה, the bird עולה, נסכים, the bird חטאת and the מצורע's oil. It shows why each one does not belong on the list. It also explains what the משנה's word 'בזו' comes to exclude in each half. Another משנה teaches that מנחות made in a כלי need three placements of oil. It records a מחלוקת between רבי and the חכמים about when the oil is mixed, and explains that wafers are smeared in an X shape. רב פפא says the oven-baked מנחה is excluded from the three placements. A ברייתא then starts deriving these oil rules from the פסוקים, and its גזירה שוה continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
לָא קָא מִיבַּעְיָא לִי,
I am not asking about that;
כִּי קָא מִבַּעְיָא לִי
when I do ask,
לָאו דְּ״כָלִיל תִּהְיֶה״, מַאי?
it is about the prohibition of 'it shall be offered in its entirety': what is the law?
אָמַר רַב אַהֲרֹן לְרָבִינָא:
Rav Aharon said to Ravina:
The steps (26)
- QuestionAsking about the prohibition of 'it shall be offered in its entirety'
- Responseרב אהרן answers from a ברייתא of רבי אליעזר
- Statementמשנה: offerings that go entirely to the altar
- Statementמשנה: offerings that go entirely to the priests
- ChallengeWhy isn't the burnt offering on the list?
- ResolutionThe burnt offering's hide goes to the priests
- ChallengeWhat about the bird burnt offering?
- ResolutionThe bird's crop and feathers are not burned
- ChallengeWhat about wine libations?
- ResolutionLibations go down to the drainpipes
- QuestionWhat is the word 'בזו' coming to teach?
- ResponseThe word 'בזו' rejects שמואל's view on donated wine
- ProofThe משנה supports שמואל on donated oil
- ChallengeDoes a bird חטאת also go entirely to the כהנים?
- ResolutionThe bird חטאת's blood goes on the מזבח
- ChallengeDoes the מצורע's לוג of oil go entirely to the כהנים?
- ResolutionThe מצורע's oil has its applications
- QuestionWhat does the word 'in this' add?
- ResponseEven loaves brought alone still go to the כהנים
- StatementThree oil placements for meal offerings made in a vessel
- StatementWhen is the oil mixed in: loaves or flour?
- StatementWafers are smeared in an X shape
- QuestionWhat do the words 'made in a vessel' exclude?
- ResponseThe oven-baked offering is excluded
- ProofA פסוק teaches that the מרחשת needs oil placed in the vessel
- ProofStarting a גזירה שוה from the word 'your offering'