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Nazir 25b

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Topic

Why פסוקים are needed for ולד חטאת and תמורת אשם despite a הלכה, what ״אָשָׁם הוּא״ teaches according to רב, and a challenge to רבי יוחנן's rule about a נזיר.

Overview

The amud opens by finishing an earlier point: the פסוק teaches that offspring of קדשים such as שלמים are offered, not left to die. Next, a ברייתא uses the word ״רַק״ to teach that ולד חטאת and תמורת אשם are not offered on the מזבח. The גמרא asks why a פסוק is needed when a הלכה למשה מסיני already covers both cases. It answers that the הלכה tells us what to do with the animal, and the פסוק adds that someone who offers it anyway breaks an עשה. Then רבי עקיבא learns the rule from ״אָשָׁם הוּא״, and the גמרא asks the same question about his source. The answer is that ״הוּא״ teaches the rule behind רב's ruling: an אשם that was sent to graze is valid if slaughtered as an עולה, but before that it is not valid. Finally, the גמרא goes back to רבי יוחנן's statement that a certain rule is a הלכה about a נזיר. It starts to challenge him with a ברייתא about others who bring pairs of birds, which continues on the next עמוד.

Opening lines

וּוַלְדֵי קָדָשִׁים בְּבֵית הַבְּחִירָה,

and the offspring of sacred animals [are left to die] in the Temple,

קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן דְּלָא.

it teaches us that [it is] not [so].

קָתָנֵי: יָכוֹל אַף וְלַד חַטָּאת

It teaches: One might think that even the offspring of a sin-offering

וּתְמוּרַת אָשָׁם כֵּן —

and the substitute of a guilt-offering [are treated] so —

The steps (12)

  1. ResolutionThe verse teaches that offspring of sacred animals are not left to die
  2. StatementThe ברייתא: ולד חטאת and תמורת אשם are excluded by the word ״רַק״
  3. ChallengeWhy a verse, if a tradition already teaches that ולד חטאת dies?
  4. ResolutionAnswer: the verse comes for the guilt-offering
  5. ChallengeBut the guilt-offering also has a tradition
  6. ResolutionThe verse adds a positive commandment for someone who offers it
  7. Statementרבי עקיבא's source: the word 'It is'
  8. ChallengeWhy need a verse if there is a tradition?
  9. ResolutionThe verse teaches רב's ruling
  10. ResolutionHow רב's ruling comes from the word 'It'
  11. StatementBack to the rule about a נזיר
  12. ChallengeIsn't there another case besides a נזיר?