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Pesachim 101a

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Topic

קידוש בבית הכנסת and קידוש במקום סעודה: the views of רב, שמואל, and רבי יוחנן

Overview

This amud continues the מחלוקת about people who hear קידוש in the בית הכנסת. רב holds they fulfill קידוש, and שמואל holds they do not. The גמרא explains why each side still keeps the familiar practice. For רב, the home קידוש is for the family. For שמואל, the shul קידוש is for guests who eat there. שמואל's view comes from his rule אין קידוש אלא במקום סעודה, and רב ענן בר תחליפא shows that this rule applies even when moving within one house. רב הונא and רבה are shown to follow the same rule. The גמרא then explains why רבה's practice does not contradict אביי's report that he usually followed רב: he followed רב's stringencies but not his leniencies. Finally, רבי יוחנן says that shul קידוש even covers the wine ברכה. The גמרא begins showing that this fits his ruling on changing wine, a quote that continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

אַף יְדֵי קִידּוּשׁ לֹא יָצְאוּ.

Even the obligation of kiddush they have not fulfilled.

אֶלָּא לְרַב,

But according to Rav,

לְמָה לֵיהּ לְקַדּוֹשֵׁי בְּבֵיתֵיהּ?

why does he need to make kiddush in his house?

כְּדֵי לְהוֹצִיא

In order to fulfill the obligation of

The steps (15)

  1. Statementשמואל: those who hear קידוש in shul do not fulfill it
  2. ChallengeQuestion on רב: why make קידוש again at home?
  3. ResolutionAnswer: to fulfill the obligation for his family
  4. ChallengeQuestion on שמואל: why make קידוש in shul at all?
  5. ResolutionAnswer: for guests who eat and sleep in the shul
  6. Statementשמואל's rule: קידוש only where the meal is eaten
  7. StatementThe students' assumption: the rule applies only between houses
  8. Rejectionרב ענן בר תחליפא: שמואל repeated קידוש within one house
  9. Statementרב הונא also requires קידוש where the meal is eaten
  10. Statementרבה also requires קידוש where the meal is eaten
  11. ChallengeChallenge: אביי said רבה followed רב except in three cases
  12. StatementThe source for רבי שמעון's ruling on dragging
  13. Resolutionרבה followed רב's stringencies but not his leniencies
  14. Statementרבי יוחנן: קידוש in the synagogue even covers the blessing on wine
  15. Statementרבי יוחנן follows his own reasoning: introducing his rule on changing wine