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Pesachim 83b

פסחים פ״ג ע״ב

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Topic

Bones and sinews of the פסח, רב's rule on sinews, and why נותר is not burned on יום טוב

Overview

The amud opens by finishing an explanation. Bones of ordinary קדשים found in piles, some opened, need no burning, but bones of the פסח may still hold marrow because of the איסור of שבירת העצם. רב then rules that all sinews count as meat except the neck sinews. The גמרא challenges him from our משנה: the 'sinews' burned on the sixteenth seem to be neck sinews, and burning them implies they are meat. Three אמוראים defend רב by rereading the משנה. רב חסדא says it means the גיד הנשה according to רבי יהודה, רב אשי says the fat of the גיד הנשה, and רבינא says the outer sinew described by שמואל. Next the גמרא asks why נותר is not burned on יום טוב itself, since an עשה overrides a לא תעשה. חזקיה, אביי and רבא each bring a different פסוק to answer, and רבא's explanation continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

שֶׁמְּצָאָן צִבּוּרִין צִבּוּרִין,

that he found them in piles,

וּמֵהֶן חֲלוּצִין.

and some of them had their marrow removed.

עַצְמוֹת קָדָשִׁים

Bones of offerings

דְּאֵין בָּהֶן מִשּׁוּם שְׁבִירַת הָעֶצֶם —

to which the prohibition of breaking a bone does not apply —

The steps (20)

  1. ResolutionBones of ordinary offerings found in piles need no burning
  2. ResolutionBones of the פסח may still contain marrow
  3. StatementAll sinews count as meat except the neck sinews
  4. ChallengeCiting the משנה about burning sinews
  5. QuestionWhich sinews does the משנה mean?
  6. RejectionRuling out regular sinews and leftover sinews
  7. ResponseThe משנה must mean neck sinews
  8. ChallengeIf neck sinews are not meat, why burn them? A challenge to רב
  9. ResolutionThe משנה means גיד הנשה according to רבי יהודה
  10. Proofרבי יהודה: only one גיד הנשה is forbidden
  11. ProofAttempt to prove רבי יהודה was unsure
  12. RejectionThe nerves were known, then mixed up
  13. Resolutionרב אשי: the משנה means the fat of the sciatic nerve
  14. ProofA ברייתא: the fat is permitted, but Jews treat it as forbidden
  15. Resolutionרבינא: the משנה means the outer sinew
  16. Proofשמואל: two sinews, inner Torah-forbidden and outer not punished
  17. ChallengeWhy not burn the leftovers on יום טוב?
  18. Resolutionחזקיה: the Torah gives a second morning for the burning
  19. Resolutionאביי: Only שבת's own offerings belong on שבת
  20. Resolutionרבא: On יום טוב, only food itself may be prepared