Shabbos 130b

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Shabbat 130b

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Topic

Carrying the מילה knife on שבת according to רבי שמעון, and whether one may carry throughout a מבוי without שיתוף

Overview

This amud opens with the last words of a ברייתא: the knife for a ברית מילה was brought on שבת through roofs and courtyards, 'not according to the wishes of רבי אליעזר.' רב יוסף objects that רבי אליעזר is the most lenient opinion, and the suggestion that the act followed the רבנן fails, because the רבנן forbid that route too. רב אשי explains that the act followed רבי שמעון, who treats roofs, enclosures and courtyards as one domain for objects resting there when שבת began. רבי זירא asks רבי אסי whether רבי שמעון's leniency also covers a מבוי without שיתוף, and רבי אסי is silent. Later רבי אסי tells a story about a forgotten scalpel that was carried from one end of an unjoined מבוי to the other. He then confirms that one may carry throughout such a מבוי, explaining that his learning had come back to him. The גמרא then brings רב's ruling that in an unjoined מבוי one may carry only four אמות. רבה בר אבוה explains that this applies only when the courtyards made an עירוב with their houses; otherwise one may carry throughout. רב חנינא חוזאה begins to probe this explanation using another ruling of רב about לחי and קורה, and his challenge continues on the next amud.

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The steps (22)

1. StatementClosing words of the ברייתא: against the wishes of רבי אליעזר
2. Challengeרב יוסף objects: רבי אליעזר is the one who permits
3. ResolutionProposed answer: the action followed the רבנן
4. RejectionRejected: the רבנן forbid roofs and courtyards too
5. Resolutionרב אשי: it followed רבי שמעון
6. ProofSource: רבי שמעון treats roofs, enclosures and courtyards as one domain
7. Questionרבי זירא asks about a מבוי without שיתוף
8. QuestionFirst side: a מבוי is like a courtyard
9. QuestionSecond side: a מבוי is different from a courtyard
10. Conclusionרבי אסי is silent
11. Statementרבי אסי tells the story of the forgotten scalpel
12. ChallengeTwo reasons the חכמים were troubled
13. ResolutionThe scalpel was only carried within an unjoined מבוי
14. Questionרבי זירא asks whether רבי אסי allows carrying in an unjoined מבוי
15. Responseרבי אסי answers: yes
16. ChallengeBut you did not tell me this before
17. ResolutionHis learning brought the answer back to him
18. Statementרב rules: only four אמות in an unjoined מבוי
19. Statementאביי says רבה בר אבוה explained רבי זירא's ruling
20. ConclusionIt depends on whether the courtyards joined with their houses
21. QuestionExplaining why carrying is limited when courtyards joined with houses
22. ProofSupporting this from another ruling of רב about לחי and קורה