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Shabbos 134a

שבת קל״ד ע״א

Shabbat 134a

Learn Shabbos 134a step by step: Aramaic beside English, every question, answer and proof colour-coded.

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Topic

Preparations for מילה on שבת and יום טוב, food-preparation limits on יום טוב (mustard, cheese), and אביי's mother's baby-care advice, including when to postpone a מילה.

Overview

This amud opens by finishing a list of baby remedies, then returns to the משנה about a מוהל who did not grind cumin before שבת. A ברייתא teaches that grinding כמון and mixing יין ושמן for a מילה are forbidden on שבת but allowed on יום טוב. אביי challenges this, since רבי מאיר permits mixing wine and oil for a sick person on שבת. A story shows that רבי מאיר was only strict on himself and never retracted his view. The גמרא answers that a מילה needs the mixture beaten, which is forbidden on שבת, but mixing without beating is allowed. Next, אביי and רב יוסף discuss preparing mustard and curdling cheese on יום טוב. Straining mustard looks like בורר, and a wooden coal may not be used to sweeten it. Cheese may not be curdled on יום טוב because it could have been made beforehand without losing quality. Finally, אביי passes on his foster mother's advice on bandaging a מילה and caring for newborns. The amud ends with the rule that a red or pale baby's מילה is postponed, proven by two stories of רבי נתן.

Opening lines

חַסְפָּנִיתָא.

A child with sores.

מַאי תַּקַּנְתֵּיהּ —

What is his remedy?

לִימְשֵׁי טוּבָא בְּמַיָּא דְסִילְקָא.

Let him wash a lot in beet water.

לֹא שָׁחַק מֵעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת.

If he did not grind it before Shabbat.

The steps (35)

  1. StatementA remedy for a child with skin sores
  2. StatementSome preparations for a מילה are allowed on יום טוב but not on שבת
  3. Challengeאביי asks: if cumin is allowed because it is fit for food, why not wine and oil on שבת?
  4. ProofA ברייתא shows that wine and oil may be mixed for a sick person on שבת
  5. Statementרבי מאיר refuses the treatment when he is sick
  6. Responseרבי מאיר explains: I would not act against my colleagues
  7. ConclusionIt was a personal stringency; for everyone it is permitted
  8. ResolutionFor a sick person the mixture is not beaten, but for מילה it must be
  9. ChallengeWhy not mix for מילה without beating?
  10. ResolutionThat is exactly what the משנה means
  11. StatementA ברייתא forbids straining mustard and sweetening it with a coal
  12. Challengeאביי compares this to putting an egg in a mustard strainer
  13. ResolutionOnly the mustard looks like selecting
  14. ChallengeAnother ברייתא allows sweetening with a coal
  15. ResolutionMetal coal versus wooden coal
  16. ChallengeWhy is mustard different from meat roasted on coals?
  17. ResolutionMeat has no other option, mustard does
  18. QuestionMay one curdle cheese on יום טוב?
  19. ResponseCurdling cheese is forbidden
  20. ChallengeWhy is cheese different from kneading dough?
  21. ResolutionBread must be fresh, cheese can be made earlier
  22. ChallengeThe scholars of נהרדעא praise fresh cheese
  23. ResolutionEven fresh cheese is good, but aged is better
  24. StatementBack to the משנה about the pouch for the מילה
  25. Statementאביי's mother: put the pouch on with its threads away from the wound
  26. Statementאביי's mother made a half-size pouch
  27. StatementWhat to do if the baby has no pouch
  28. StatementOpening a baby's blocked exit
  29. StatementA baby who will not nurse
  30. StatementA baby who does not urinate
  31. StatementA baby who is not breathing
  32. StatementA baby who is too small or too large
  33. StatementDelay מילה for a red or pale baby
  34. Proofרבי נתן and the red baby
  35. Proofרבי נתן and the pale baby