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Temurah 19b

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Topic

Holiness of a female set aside for an אשם: its baby, selling it, and קדושת הגוף versus קדושת דמים

Overview

רבי יוסי ברבי חנינא says that even רבי אלעזר agrees that the baby of a female set aside for an אשם is not brought as an אשם. The גמרא explains why this ruling is needed, and why it is said about an אשם and not about an עולה. Then a משנה rules that a female set aside for an אשם must graze until it gets a מום before it is sold. רבי שמעון says it may be sold right away. רב explains the first view with a מיגו: since קדושת דמים came onto the animal, קדושת הגוף came too. רבא first disagrees with רב כהנא about a male consecrated for its value, then changes his mind and agrees with him. רבי יוחנן explains that רבי שמעון holds that something unfit to be offered never gets קדושת הגוף. He backs this up with the case of an אשם brought at the wrong age. The גמרא answers a challenge from an animal that is too young, which רבי שמעון learns from a בכור. A new ברייתא about a female set aside for an עולה begins and continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בְּרַבִּי חֲנִינָא:

Rabbi Yosei son of Rabbi Chanina said:

וּמוֹדֶה רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר

And Rabbi Elazar agrees

בְּמַפְרִישׁ נְקֵבָה לְאָשָׁם

in a case where one sets aside a female for a guilt offering

דְּאֵין בְּנָהּ קָרֵב אָשָׁם.

that her offspring is not offered as a guilt offering.

The steps (22)

  1. StatementEven רבי אלעזר agrees about a female set aside for an אשם
  2. ChallengeIsn't this obvious?
  3. ResolutionWe might have thought רבי אלעזר's reason was different
  4. ChallengeWhy not teach the broader case of an עולה?
  5. ResolutionA ruling about an עולה would not have covered the אשם
  6. StatementThe משנה: a female set aside for an אשם waits for a blemish
  7. Statementרבי שמעון: it may be sold without a blemish
  8. ChallengeWhy wait for a blemish if the female is already unfit?
  9. Resolutionרב: once value-holiness comes, body-holiness comes too
  10. Statementרבא: a male consecrated for its value gets body-holiness
  11. StatementMale animal consecrated for its value: רב כהנא and רבא disagree
  12. Conclusionרבא changes his mind and agrees with רב כהנא
  13. ChallengeWhy doesn't רבי שמעון accept the מיגו?
  14. Resolutionרבי שמעון holds that something unfit for the מזבח never gets קדושת הגוף
  15. ProofThe ברייתא: an אשם brought at the wrong age
  16. Proofרבי שמעון: the wrong-age אשם is not holy at all
  17. ChallengeA young animal is unfit, yet רבי שמעון calls it holy
  18. ResolutionA young animal will be fit soon
  19. ChallengeThe wrong-age אשם will also be fit later
  20. ResolutionThe real reason: learned from a בכור
  21. ProofA ברייתא compares a young animal to a בכור
  22. StatementNew ברייתא: a female set aside for an עולה