Temurah 32b

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Topic

עולא's rule about an עולה given to בדק הבית and מעילה with חרמים, then the argument of רבי יוחנן and ריש לקיש over which holy animals need העמדה והערכה

Overview

The amud opens by finishing a challenge against עולא. He seemed to learn a rule from the פסוק of חרם, yet he also holds that by Torah law an עולה given to בדק הבית only faces a holdup by the treasurers. The גמרא answers that the rule is only from the רבנן, and the פסוק really teaches מעילה. When asked why מעילה needs a פסוק if the item is already called 'קדש קדשים', the גמרא shows from רבי ינאי and רבי that even 'most holy' offerings like חטאת and אשם needed a פסוק for מעילה, so חרמים do too. Next the גמרא examines עולא's rule directly: a ברייתא requires redeeming such an עולה, but this is explained as only rabbinic, and the ברייתא's 'two counts of מעילה' is read as 'fit for two counts.' Then the גמרא turns to the משנה about holy animals that died. רבי יוחנן and ריש לקיש argue over which animals the רבנן place under 'standing and valuing', and the גמרא tests them using רבי שמעון's wording. Finally, a ברייתא supporting רבי יוחנן reads the פסוק as speaking about blemished animals, and that discussion continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

The steps (23)

1. ChallengeThe challenge ends: only the treasurers are involved
2. ResolutionThe rule is rabbinic, and the verse teaches about misuse
3. ChallengeWhy is a verse needed for misuse?
4. RejectionCounter-question from Rabbi Yannai: the Torah spells out misuse only for a burnt offering
5. Proofרבי's teaching that includes lesser offerings in מעילה
6. ProofEven 'most holy' items still need a פסוק
7. ConclusionThe same applies to חרמים
8. StatementBack to עולא's rule about an עולה given to בדק הבית
9. ChallengeA ברייתא says the עולה must be redeemed first
10. ResolutionThe redemption is only a rabbinic requirement
11. ProofProof from the end of the ברייתא
12. ChallengeIf it is only rabbinic, why two counts of misuse?
13. ResolutionThe ברייתא means the animal is fit for two counts
14. StatementQuoting the משנה: if they died, they are buried
15. Statementרבי יוחנן: both kinds of holy animals need standing and valuing
16. Statementריש לקיש: only בדק הבית animals need standing and valuing
17. StatementWhat Both Sides Agree On
18. Challengeרבי שמעון's Wording Fits רבי יוחנן
19. ChallengeWhy Specify According to ריש לקיש?
20. Resolutionרבי שמעון Covered Both Possibilities
21. ProofA ברייתא supports רבי יוחנן
22. QuestionMaybe the verse means a non-kosher animal
23. ResponseA later verse already covers the non-kosher animal