Temurah 33a

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Topic

Do animals consecrated for the altar (קדשי מזבח) need העמדה והערכה (standing and valuation) when they are redeemed? This is the argument between רבי יוחנן and ריש לקיש about the view of the רבנן.

Overview

This amud is about whether animals given to the altar (קדשי מזבח) need העמדה והערכה, standing before a כהן and being valued, when they are redeemed. It opens by finishing a ברייתא that supports רבי יוחנן: the פסוק about an 'unofferable' animal means an altar animal with a permanent blemish, and the תורה requires standing and valuation for it. Then רב explains ריש לקיש's source from the words 'whether good or bad', which he reads as pointing to בדק הבית. For רבי יוחנן, the word 'אותה' leaves out an animal blemished from the start. The גמרא admits it cannot find a job for 'אותה' in the view of תנא דבי לוי. רב also gives רבי שמעון's opposite reading of the same פסוק, and the גמרא raises a difficulty on that reading too. Next, two ברייתות about consecrated animals that died are used to test רבי יוחנן and ריש לקיש. Each side answers by explaining which case the ברייתא is about, and ריש לקיש even reverses the first ברייתא. The amud ends as רבי ירמיה begins a new challenge to ריש לקיש, which continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

The steps (29)

1. ProofThe verse about an unofferable animal means blemished animals
2. ProofOnly a permanent blemish, not a temporary one
3. ProofSo the תורה requires standing and valuation for altar animals
4. QuestionWhat is ריש לקיש's reason?
5. ResponseThe source: 'whether good or bad'
6. ResponseFinishing ריש לקיש's proof: 'Good or bad' points to בדק הבית
7. QuestionFor רבי יוחנן, what does 'it' leave out?
8. ResponseIt leaves out an animal that was blemished from the start
9. Challengeתנא דבי לוי includes everything, so what does 'it' leave out?
10. QuestionWhat is רבי שמעון's source?
11. ResponseFor רבי שמעון, 'good or bad' points to altar animals
12. ChallengeThe wording of the פסוק does not fit רבי שמעון
13. ChallengeA ברייתא about consecrated animals that died
14. Challengeרבי שמעון's opinion and the refutation of רבי יוחנן
15. Resolutionרבי יוחנן answers: an animal blemished from the start
16. ProofLogic supports reading the ברייתא as an animal blemished from the start
17. ChallengeDoes this reading refute ריש לקיש?
18. Resolutionריש לקיש reads the ברייתא as consecrated first, blemished later
19. ChallengeThen why doesn't רבי שמעון argue?
20. Resolutionריש לקיש has the ברייתא reversed
21. Statementרבי שמעון's view on dead Temple-maintenance animals
22. ChallengeThe ending of the ברייתא seems to refute רבי יוחנן
23. Resolutionרבי יוחנן: the case is an animal blemished from the start
24. ProofSupport: otherwise רבי שמעון should have argued
25. ChallengeThen the ברייתא refutes ריש לקיש
26. Resolutionריש לקיש: the case is consecrated first, blemished later
27. ChallengeBut then רבי שמעון should argue
28. Resolutionריש לקיש: רבי שמעון really does argue
29. Challengeרבי ירמיה begins a question on ריש לקיש