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Temurah 33b

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Topic

Redeeming dead קדשים and the rules of העמדה והערכה according to רבי שמעון, the רבנן, רבי יוחנן and ריש לקיש, followed by a new משנה listing items that are buried and items that are burned.

Overview

The גמרא tries to prove from a ברייתא that we may redeem קדשים just to feed them to dogs. The proof is rejected because the animals in that ברייתא were slaughtered, so their meat is fit for people. רבי זירא then explains why, according to רבי שמעון, unblemished בדק הבית animals are buried: they are fit for the מזבח, and anything fit for the מזבח never leaves it. Next, רב פפא (or רבא) challenges רבי יוחנן's claim that everyone agrees a בעל מום מעיקרו is not included in העמדה והערכה. The challenge comes from רב's comment on a משנה in בכורות. אביי answers that the 'חכמים' רב quoted are a תנא from the school of לוי. The גמרא then explains רב's wording in two ways: either he follows ריש לקיש, or he follows רבי יוחנן and meant 'רבי שמעון and his disputants.' Finally, a new משנה lists the forbidden items that must be buried and those that must be burned.

Opening lines

בַּעֲלֵי מוּמִין יִפָּדוּ״,

blemished ones shall be redeemed;

וּמוֹקְמִינַן לָהּ

and we established it

בְּשֶׁקָּדַם הֶקְדֵּישָׁן אֶת מוּמָן,

as a case where their consecration preceded their blemish;

שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ

learn from it

The steps (21)

  1. ProofAttempted proof that we redeem sacred animals to feed dogs
  2. RejectionRejection: the animals were slaughtered, not dead on their own
  3. ProofSupporting ברייתא: slaughtered blemished animals
  4. QuestionWhy are unblemished animals buried according to רבי שמעון?
  5. ResponseBecause they are fit to be offered
  6. ProofA ברייתא supports the answer: anything fit for the altar stays with the altar
  7. QuestionIs it true that everyone agrees about an animal blemished from the start?
  8. ChallengeA משנה about animals blemished before they were consecrated
  9. Statementרב: The משנה Follows רבי שמעון
  10. Statementרבי שמעון Agrees About an Animal Blemished From the Start
  11. ChallengeBut the Sages Include Even an Animal Blemished From the Start
  12. ResolutionThese חכמים Are a תנא From the School of לוי
  13. ChallengeThen Rav Should Have Said the משנה Fits Both Sides
  14. Resolutionרב Follows ריש לקיש's View of the רבנן
  15. ResolutionWhy the last clause does not fit the רבנן according to ריש לקיש
  16. ResolutionSecond answer: רב holds like רבי יוחנן
  17. StatementNew משנה: the list of items that must be buried
  18. Statementרבי שמעון: חולין slaughtered in the עזרה are burned
  19. StatementThe list of items that must be burned
  20. StatementLighting a fire with impure תרומה bread and oil
  21. Statementקדשים slaughtered with intent for outside their time or place are burned