Yevamos 58a

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Yevamot 58a

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Topic

Does a חופה with a woman forbidden to the man have legal force? This covers whether it stops her from eating תרומה, and רב ששת's proof from the סוטה oath.

Overview

The גמרא asks whether entering the חופה with a כהן she may not marry stops a woman from eating תרומה, and looks for an argument among תנאים about this. It first ties the question to the argument of רבי מאיר versus רבי אלעזר and רבי שמעון about קידושין. It rejects that link, because קידושין and חופה differ in two ways. It then brings a ברייתא where the תנא קמא lets such women eat תרומה after חופה, while רבי ישמעאל בנו של רבי יוחנן בן ברוקה says they may not. That proof is also pushed off: רבי ישמעאל may simply agree with רבי מאיר and be borrowing the תנא קמא's wording. Next, רב עמרם reports רב ששת's rule that a חופה counts even with women who are forbidden to the man, proven from the סוטה oath that mentions an ארוסה. After rejecting two possible cases, the גמרא settles on one where she was warned and secluded herself as an ארוסה and then entered the חופה without relations. רבא challenges this, and רמי בר חמא answers by adding that her betrothed had been with her earlier in her father's house. The גמרא then starts to test the matching case of a שומרת יבם, a discussion that continues on the next amud.

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The steps (21)

1. ProofLinking the question to the argument about קידושין
2. RejectionMaybe רבי מאיר is only strict about קידושין
3. RejectionMaybe רבי אלעזר and רבי שמעון are lenient only about קידושין
4. ProofA new attempt: a ברייתא about women who entered the חופה
5. ChallengeDoes 'they married' mean real married life?
6. ResolutionIt is one case: entered the חופה without living together
7. ProofThe opposing view: חופה works only where living together would
8. RejectionMaybe רבי ישמעאל just follows רבי מאיר
9. ChallengeWhy would he mention חופה and not קידושין?
10. ResolutionHe just followed the first תנא's wording
11. Statementרב ששת: a חופה with an unfit woman still counts
12. ProofSupport from the סוטה oath
13. QuestionWhat case is the 'ארוסה' in the oath?
14. ChallengeA betrothed woman never drinks
15. ResponseWarned while betrothed, drinks after the wedding
16. ChallengeThe waters would not test her
17. ResponseThird attempt: warned while betrothed, then entered the חופה with no relations
18. ConclusionLearn from this: a חופה counts even with forbidden women
19. Challengeרבא: the waters only work if the husband was with her first
20. Resolutionרמי בר חמא: the betrothed husband was with her in her father's house
21. ChallengeSetting up the parallel case of a שומרת יבם