Yevamos 69b

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Yevamot 69b

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Topic

Who lets a woman eat תרומה, worrying about a possible pregnancy, and the child of an ארוסה

Overview

This amud finishes a משנה about which relationships let a woman eat תרומה and which take that right away. A כהן's daughter loses תרומה while she carries a ישראל's child. A ישראל woman gains it once she bears a כהן's child, so the son can do more than his father. An עבד never counts as a woman's offspring. A ממזר does count, and so does even a grandson fit to be כהן גדול, who can stop his own grandmother from eating. The גמרא then asks why we do not worry that a woman might already be pregnant. רבה בר רב הונא answers that חכמים worried only about pregnancy within marriage. רב חסדא adds that for the first forty days a fetus is 'just water.' Finally, רב and שמואל argue about a child born to an ארוסה. רבא and אביי debate whether we assume the ארוס is the father, and a second version of their argument begins and continues on the next amud.

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The steps (30)

1. StatementA pregnancy from a ישראל stops her; a miscarriage brings her back
2. StatementA כהן with a ישראל woman: only the born child lets her eat
3. ConclusionThe son is stronger than the father
4. StatementAn עבד disqualifies through relations, not as offspring
5. ResponseBuilding the case of a grandson who is an עבד
6. StatementThe grandson who is an עבד counts as no offspring
7. StatementA ממזר both disqualifies and lets her eat
8. ResponseBuilding the case of a grandson who is a ממזר
9. StatementThe grandson who is a ממזר counts as real offspring
10. StatementEven a כהן גדול can sometimes disqualify
11. ResponseBuilding the case of a grandson fit to be כהן גדול
12. StatementHe lets his mother eat but blocks his grandmother
13. ConclusionThe grandmother's complaint
14. StatementThe משנה already taught a known ברייתא
15. StatementThe משנה's case: a בת כהן with a ישראל
16. ChallengeWhy not worry that she might be pregnant?
17. ResolutionFirst answer: the worry is for lineage, not תרומה
18. ChallengeBut חכמים do worry about תרומה
19. ResolutionSecond answer: worry in marriage, not in זנות
20. ChallengeA ברייתא shows no worry about pregnancy even after marriage
21. ResolutionShe may eat only during the first forty days
22. Challengeאביי challenges with the end of the ברייתא
23. ResolutionRetroactive only back to day forty
24. StatementA child from relations with a betrothed woman: רב and שמואל disagree
25. Statementרבא limits רב's view to a woman with a rumor about her
26. Proofרבא brings support from the משנה about a child of a כהן
27. ProofThe קל וחומר: if it works there, it surely works here
28. Rejectionאביי rejects the proof
29. StatementA second version of the argument between רב and שמואל
30. Statementרבא explains when רב's view makes sense in the second version