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Yevamos 70a

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Yevamot 70a

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Topic

Whose child it is when there are rumors; who counts as offspring for תרומה; and, in the new פרק, why a ערל כהן may not eat תרומה

Overview

The amud opens by finishing רבא's limit on רב's ruling. If a woman is rumored to have been with her ארוס, the child is his, even if she is also rumored with other men. רבא proves this from the משנה 'ילדה תאכל' and a קל וחומר, but אביי answers that the משנה is a case with no rumors at all. The גמרא then explains lines of the משנה. A slave's child is not counted as his father's offspring (שמות 21:4). The words 'וזרע אין לה' teach that even an unfit child like a ממזר counts as offspring. Even the רבנן agree that a non-Jew or slave with a Jewish woman produces a ממזר. The grandmother's saying about the 'little jug' and the 'big jug' ends פרק אלמנה. The new פרק begins with a משנה about a ערל, a טמא, a פצוע דכא and a כרות שפכה, and whether they and their households may eat תרומה. The גמרא then brings the sources that a ערל may not eat תרומה: רבי אליעזר learns it from 'תושב ושכיר' by פסח, and רבי עקיבא learns it from 'איש איש'. The גמרא tests whether 'תושב ושכיר' is מופנה, and that discussion continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

אֲבָל דָּיְימָא מִנֵּיהּ,

But if she is rumored to have been with him,

אַף עַל גַּב דְּדָיְימָא מֵעָלְמָא —

even if she is also rumored to have been with others,

בָּתְרֵיהּ דִּידֵיהּ שָׁדֵינַן לֵיהּ.

we cast the child after him.

אָמַר רָבָא: מְנָא אָמֵינָא לַהּ —

Rava said: From where do I say this?

The steps (33)

  1. StatementIf she is rumored with him, the child is his
  2. Proofרבא's source: the משנה 'she gave birth, she may eat'
  3. ProofThe קל וחומר: all the more so for an ארוס
  4. Rejectionאביי: רב says ממזר whenever there are rumors with others
  5. QuestionWhy a slave does not disqualify as offspring
  6. ResponseA slave woman's children are hers alone
  7. StatementA grandchild also counts as offspring
  8. StatementAn unfit child also counts as offspring
  9. ChallengeThe phrase was already used for grandchildren
  10. ResolutionGrandchildren need no verse, so it teaches about an unfit child
  11. Questionריש לקיש asks whose view the משנה follows
  12. ResponseEven the Rabbis agree about a non-Jew and a slave
  13. ProofProof from רבי's teaching brought by רב דימי
  14. StatementThe grandmother's saying about her two grandsons
  15. ConclusionHadran — Closing פרק אלמנה
  16. StatementNew פרק: a ערל or טמא כהן may not eat תרומה
  17. StatementAn injured כהן eats תרומה, but his wife may not
  18. StatementDefining פצוע דכא and כרות שפכה
  19. QuestionWhere do we learn that a ערל may not eat תרומה
  20. Responseרבי אלעזר learns it from קרבן פסח
  21. Statementרבי עקיבא learns it from "איש איש"
  22. StatementThe גמרא re-quotes רבי אליעזר's comparison so it can examine it
  23. StatementThe words must be free, or the comparison could be broken
  24. ResolutionThe words really are free
  25. QuestionWhich of the two phrases is the free one?
  26. ChallengeThe words by תרומה are needed for their own law
  27. ProofA ברייתא shows what תושב and שכיר teach about תרומה
  28. ChallengeThe ברייתא asks why both words are needed
  29. ResolutionWhy both words are needed by תרומה
  30. ResponseSo the פסח words must be the free ones
  31. QuestionWhat does ״תושב ושכיר״ by פסח mean?
  32. ChallengeA real Hebrew slave has no reason to be exempt from פסח
  33. ProofProof from תרומה that he is not his master's property