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Yevamos 80a

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Yevamot 80a

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Topic

Identifying the סריס חמה and the אילונית, רבי אליעזר's seemingly conflicting rulings, and how late signs of maturity affect a person's status

Overview

The amud opens by finishing the definition of a סריס חמה: a man who never had even one moment of being able to have children. אביי gives a sign we can see to identify him, and the גמרא explains that the defect starts in the womb. The גמרא asks whether he might have been healed for a while in between. It answers that a defect of the whole body, present at birth and still present now, is assumed to have lasted the whole time; only a blemish on one limb needs checking again and again. Next the גמרא points out that רבי אליעזר seems to contradict himself, comparing our משנה with a משנה in נדה about one who never matured. שמואל's answer, quoted by רמי בר דיקולי, is that רבי אליעזר changed his mind, and a ברייתא shows he kept his view that a סריס חמה does חליצה. רבי אלעזר answers differently: the משנה in נדה is only about punishments. This leads to an argument between רב and שמואל about a boy who matured late. אביי defends רב by explaining that an אילונית goes straight from minor to full adult, and a ברייתא backs him up. Finally, רבי אבהו says we do not act on these signs until age twenty. The גמרא then questions whether a baby born in the eighth month can even live, and that discussion continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

שֶׁלֹּא רָאָה שָׁעָה אַחַת בְּכַשְׁרוּתוֹ.

who never saw a single hour in his fitness.

מְנָא יָדְעִינַן?

How do we know?

אָמַר אַבָּיֵי:

Abaye said:

כׇּל הַמֵּטִיל מַיִם

Anyone who passes water

The steps (22)

  1. StatementDefining the man born infertile
  2. QuestionHow can we tell he was born this way?
  3. Responseאביי's sign: no arch when urinating
  4. QuestionWhat causes this condition?
  5. ResponseThe mother baking at noon and drinking strong beer
  6. Proofרב יוסף finally understands רבי אמי's words
  7. ChallengeMaybe he was healed for a while in between
  8. ResolutionImpaired at the start and the end, so no worry
  9. Challengeרב מרי challenges from checking a blemish three times
  10. ResolutionOne limb versus the whole body
  11. ChallengeQuoting רבי אליעזר and bringing a contradicting משנה
  12. Challengeרבי אליעזר's view in the contradicting משנה
  13. Resolutionרבי אליעזר took back one of his statements
  14. QuestionWhich statement did he take back?
  15. ResponseA ברייתא shows he kept his view on the סריס חמה
  16. Resolutionרבי אלעזר: He Never Changed His Mind
  17. Statementרב and שמואל Argue About Late Signs of Maturity
  18. Challengeרב יוסף Challenges Rav From the Fine
  19. Resolutionאביי: She Skips the Middle Stage
  20. ProofA ברייתא supports אביי: no in-between stage for a סריס or an אילונית
  21. StatementWait until age twenty before acting on these signs
  22. ChallengeCan a baby born in the eighth month even survive?