Yevamos 80a
יבמות פ׳ ע״א
Yevamot 80a
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Topic
Identifying the סריס חמה and the אילונית, רבי אליעזר's seemingly conflicting rulings, and how late signs of maturity affect a person's status
Overview
The amud opens by finishing the definition of a סריס חמה: a man who never had even one moment of being able to have children. אביי gives a sign we can see to identify him, and the גמרא explains that the defect starts in the womb. The גמרא asks whether he might have been healed for a while in between. It answers that a defect of the whole body, present at birth and still present now, is assumed to have lasted the whole time; only a blemish on one limb needs checking again and again. Next the גמרא points out that רבי אליעזר seems to contradict himself, comparing our משנה with a משנה in נדה about one who never matured. שמואל's answer, quoted by רמי בר דיקולי, is that רבי אליעזר changed his mind, and a ברייתא shows he kept his view that a סריס חמה does חליצה. רבי אלעזר answers differently: the משנה in נדה is only about punishments. This leads to an argument between רב and שמואל about a boy who matured late. אביי defends רב by explaining that an אילונית goes straight from minor to full adult, and a ברייתא backs him up. Finally, רבי אבהו says we do not act on these signs until age twenty. The גמרא then questions whether a baby born in the eighth month can even live, and that discussion continues on the next amud.
Opening lines
שֶׁלֹּא רָאָה שָׁעָה אַחַת בְּכַשְׁרוּתוֹ.
who never saw a single hour in his fitness.
מְנָא יָדְעִינַן?
How do we know?
אָמַר אַבָּיֵי:
Abaye said:
כׇּל הַמֵּטִיל מַיִם
Anyone who passes water
The steps (22)
- StatementDefining the man born infertile
- QuestionHow can we tell he was born this way?
- Responseאביי's sign: no arch when urinating
- QuestionWhat causes this condition?
- ResponseThe mother baking at noon and drinking strong beer
- Proofרב יוסף finally understands רבי אמי's words
- ChallengeMaybe he was healed for a while in between
- ResolutionImpaired at the start and the end, so no worry
- Challengeרב מרי challenges from checking a blemish three times
- ResolutionOne limb versus the whole body
- ChallengeQuoting רבי אליעזר and bringing a contradicting משנה
- Challengeרבי אליעזר's view in the contradicting משנה
- Resolutionרבי אליעזר took back one of his statements
- QuestionWhich statement did he take back?
- ResponseA ברייתא shows he kept his view on the סריס חמה
- Resolutionרבי אלעזר: He Never Changed His Mind
- Statementרב and שמואל Argue About Late Signs of Maturity
- Challengeרב יוסף Challenges Rav From the Fine
- Resolutionאביי: She Skips the Middle Stage
- ProofA ברייתא supports אביי: no in-between stage for a סריס or an אילונית
- StatementWait until age twenty before acting on these signs
- ChallengeCan a baby born in the eighth month even survive?