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Yevamos 83b

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Yevamot 83b

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Topic

רב and שמואל on the rulings of רבי יוסי, the טומטום and חליצה, and the status of an אנדרוגינוס for forbidden relations and for קדשים.

Overview

The amud opens by finishing the list of cases where רב and שמואל rule like רבי יוסי. The last case is a vine spread over a friend's grain, where רבי יוסי says a person cannot forbid what is not his. The גמרא then asks about cases where only one of the two gave a ruling. שמואל is shown to reject רבי יוסי on אנדרוגינוס and on grafting. רב's view on קושי ends in תיקו. On קידוש, רב הונא's report wins: רב did not follow רבי יוסי. Next, the גמרא discusses רבי יהודה's view that an opened טומטום is a סריס, and the opinion of רבי יוסי ברבי יהודה that it is only a doubt; רבא spells out the practical differences for חליצה. It then turns to רב's ruling that relations with an אנדרוגינוס bring סקילה in both places, which follows רבי סימאי's reading of 'משכבי אשה' against the רבנן. Finally, רב חסדא limits רבי אליעזר's view that an אנדרוגינוס is a full male, proving from a ברייתא about bird offerings that it does not apply to קדשים.

Opening lines

אֵין אָדָם אוֹסֵר

A person cannot render forbidden

דָּבָר שֶׁאֵינוֹ שֶׁלּוֹ.

an item that is not his.

אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ:

A dilemma was raised before them:

בְּאַנְדְּרוֹגִינוֹס מָה לִי אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל?

As for a hermaphrodite, what did Shmuel say?

The steps (33)

  1. StatementA person cannot forbid what is not his
  2. QuestionWhat did שמואל hold about an אנדרוגינוס?
  3. ResponseA ברייתא cannot stand against a משנה
  4. QuestionWhat did שמואל hold about grafting?
  5. ResponseTeach it as thirty-three days
  6. QuestionWhat did רב hold about difficult labor?
  7. ConclusionThe question stays open
  8. QuestionWhat did רב hold about קידוש?
  9. Responseרב יוסף: רב did not follow רבי יוסי
  10. Challengeאביי: Another report says רב did follow רבי יוסי
  11. Resolutionרב הונא's report wins
  12. Challengeרבי אמי: The טומטום of בירי had seven children
  13. Resolutionרבי יהודה: Check where those children came from
  14. Statementרבי יוסי ברבי יהודה: A טומטום may not do חליצה
  15. ChallengeIs every opened טומטום male?
  16. ResolutionTwo doubts: female, or a male סריס
  17. QuestionWhat is the difference between the two opinions?
  18. Responseרבא: Two practical differences
  19. Statementרב: liability for an אנדרוגינוס in both places
  20. ChallengeChallenge from רבי אליעזר: only the male way
  21. Resolutionרב follows רבי סימאי
  22. QuestionWhat is רבי סימאי's reason?
  23. ResponseThe plural 'lyings' points to an אנדרוגינוס
  24. ResponseHow the רבנן read the פסוק
  25. QuestionWhere do the רבנן learn the case of an ordinary male?
  26. ResponseFrom the word 'woman'
  27. QuestionWhere do they learn a woman in an unnatural way?
  28. ResponseFrom the extra 'and'
  29. StatementA hermaphrodite is not a full male in every law
  30. QuestionHow do we know a hermaphrodite animal is not sanctified?
  31. ResponseA ברייתא about birds unfit for the altar
  32. Proofרבי אליעזר: 'male and female' leaves out a hermaphrodite
  33. Proofרב נחמן בר יצחק opens another supporting ברייתא