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Yoma 25b

יומא כ״ה ע״ב

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Topic

How jobs were assigned in the תמיד (the פייס, and who collects the blood), and the order in which the limbs were brought to the מזבח.

Overview

The amud first finishes the question of whether every עבודה needs its own פייס. רבי יהודה's ברייתא about the מחתה and the קטורת is read both ways, but each reading is pushed off. Then a ברייתא of רבי חייא settles it: the winner of the תמיד draws twelve כהנים along with him. Next, the גמרא asks who does the קבלה of the blood, the שוחט or the זורק. בן קטין's twelve spouts for the כיור prove that the זורק collects, and רב אחא בריה דרבא supports this from a משנה's wording. The amud then turns to the order of carrying the limbs to the מזבח, with four views: walking, skinning, cutting up, and quality. רבא explains that our תנא and רבי יוסי הגלילי both go by quality, one by amount of meat and the other by fattiness. Finally, the גמרא explains why the leg goes with the head, and brings a פסוק showing that the head and פדר go first. Its question about a second mention of פדר continues on the next amud.

Opening lines

תָּא שְׁמַע,

Come and hear:

רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר:

Rabbi Yehuda says:

לֹא הָיָה פַּיִיס לַמַּחְתָּה,

There was no lottery for the coal pan,

אֶלָּא כֹּהֵן שֶׁזָּכָה בִּקְטֹרֶת

rather, the priest who won the incense

The steps (22)

  1. ProofProof from רבי יהודה: No Separate Lottery for the Coal Pan
  2. RejectionRejection: Coal Pan and Incense Are One Service
  3. ProofSecond Version: The Same Source Proves the Opposite
  4. RejectionRejection: The Coal Pan Needed to Be Taught
  5. Proofרבי חייא's teaching settles it: one lottery pulls in twelve priests
  6. QuestionWho collects the blood? First option: the slaughterer
  7. QuestionSecond option: the sprinkler collects, since a non-priest may slaughter
  8. ProofA proof begins: Ben Katin's twelve spouts for the laver
  9. ProofTwelve spouts prove that the sprinkler collects the blood
  10. ProofSupport from the wording of a משנה
  11. StatementOrder of the limbs according to the way the animal walks
  12. Statementרבי יוסי: the order of skinning
  13. Statementרבי עקיבא: the order of cutting up
  14. Statementרבי יוסי הגלילי: the order of quality
  15. ChallengeA verse seems to say the thigh and shoulder are the best pieces
  16. ResolutionThat verse is talking about a lean animal
  17. Statementרבא explains the real dispute: amount of meat versus fattiness
  18. QuestionWhy does the leg go up together with the head?
  19. ResponseThe head is mostly bone, so the leg is added to it
  20. QuestionEveryone agrees the head goes first: what is the source?
  21. ResponseA ברייתא derives it from the verse 'its head and its fat'
  22. QuestionWhat does the other mention of 'fat' teach?