Zevachim 105a

זבחים ק״ה ע״א

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Topic

The טומאה of the פרים ושעירים הנשרפים, the פרה and the שעיר המשתלח: when carriers' בגדים become טמא, when the animals make food and drink טמא, and whether they need הכשר.

Overview

The גמרא finishes רבי אלעזר's question about an offering that is partly out of the עזרה: do we follow the limb, or the whole animal? It ends in תיקו, and so does רבה בר רב הונא's version about three of five carriers being outside. רבי אלעזר then asks about an offering that went out and came back. רבי אבא בר ממל tries to answer from a משנה about carriers on poles. רבינא rejects that proof, because the פסוק says 'afterward he may come into the camp', so a carrier must be outside to become טמא. A ברייתא follows in which רבי מאיר and the חכמים argue whether the שעיר המשתלח makes food and drink טמא. The גמרא explains both views through the rule of the school of רבי ישמעאל about הכשר. רבי אלעזר then rules that the burned bulls and goats, while still inside the עזרה, need הכשר like ordinary food. Finally, a question is raised about the size of נבלת עוף טהור needed to make food טמא according to רבי מאיר. Its answer begins at the end of the amud.

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The steps (20)

1. QuestionFollow the limb or follow the whole animal?
2. ConclusionThe question stays unanswered
3. QuestionThe same question, asked about the carriers
4. ConclusionThis version also stays unanswered
5. QuestionAn offering that went out and came back
6. ProofA משנה about carriers on poles
7. ProofWhy the משנה answers the question
8. Rejectionרבינא rejects the proof from the carriers still inside
9. QuestionSo what was רבי אלעזר asking?
10. ResponseThe case: carrying it out with poles
11. Statementברייתא: who becomes impure from the bulls, heifer and scapegoat
12. Proofרבי מאיר's view fits a teaching of רבי ישמעאל's school
13. ProofOnly things that can never become severely impure need to be made ready
14. ChallengeHow can the חכמים split the שעיר המשתלח from the bulls?
15. Resolutionרב דימי: according to the חכמים, these animals first need to become impure from something else
16. QuestionDo the burned bulls and goats make food impure while still inside the עזרה?
17. ResponseNot yet taken out counts like missing an action
18. QuestionDoes a kosher bird carcass make food impure at an olive's size?
19. QuestionNarrowing the question to meat held in the hand
20. ResponseThe asker begins to answer his own question