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Zevachim 13a

זבחים י״ג ע״א

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Topic

How בן עזאי's rule for עולה is derived, and the new משנה on which services wrong intent can ruin, including the challenge about intent during קבלה

Overview

The amud opens by finishing the discussion of how בן עזאי knows that an עולה brought שלא לשמה is פסול. In one approach, רב הונא's derivation from חטאת and פסח works for עולה but not for אשם, because אשם is never communal. In another approach, the derivation fails and בן עזאי had a received tradition, while רב הונא's קל וחומר was only meant to sharpen his students. Then a new משנה teaches that a פסח or חטאת is פסול if wrong intent comes during שחיטה, קבלה, הילוך or זריקה, even with mixed intent. רבי שמעון and רבי אליעזר disagree about whether wrong intent during הילוך counts. The גמרא asks how קבלה can be on the list, quoting a ברייתא where רבי עקיבא, confirmed by רבי טרפון, says intent during קבלה does not count like an action. רבא answers that the ברייתא is about פיגול intent and the משנה is about שלא לשמה intent, and the משנה's wording supports him. The גמרא then challenges רבא with a ברייתא showing that פיגול intent does work during שחיטה and קבלה, and its answer comes on the next amud.

Opening lines

צַד כָּרֵת לָא פָּרֵיךְ.

He does not refute with the element of karet.

אָשָׁם נָמֵי לַיְיתֵי!

Let a guilt offering also be derived!

אָשָׁם – פָּרֵיךְ:

A guilt offering: he refutes it:

מָה לְהַצַּד הַשָּׁוֶה שֶׁבָּהֶן,

What about the common element between them?

The steps (23)

  1. ResolutionThe כרת element does not refute the derivation
  2. ChallengeThen derive the guilt offering too
  3. ResolutionThe guilt offering is excluded because it is never communal
  4. ResolutionAnother approach: בן עזאי had a received tradition
  5. Resolutionרב הונא's derivation was a teaching exercise
  6. StatementA פסח or חטאת with wrong intent in any blood service is unfit
  7. StatementDefining the two kinds of mixed intent
  8. StatementThe reason: four services can ruin an offering
  9. Statementרבי שמעון: wrong intent while carrying the blood does not ruin the offering
  10. Statementרבי אליעזר: Intent During Carrying Counts Only When Carrying Is Needed
  11. ChallengeDoes Receiving the Blood Really Disqualify?
  12. ProofA ברייתא: 'And They Shall Bring Near' Means Receiving the Blood
  13. Proofרבי עקיבא Learns the Same Rule Through a גזירה שוה
  14. Statementרבי טרפון heard there is a difference between collecting and sprinkling the blood
  15. Statementרבי עקיבא explains three differences between collecting and sprinkling
  16. Statementרבי טרפון praises רבי עקיבא for matching the tradition
  17. Resolutionרבא: the ברייתא is about פיגול intent, the משנה is about שלא לשמה intent
  18. ProofThe wording of the משנה supports רבא
  19. ChallengeDoes פיגול intent really not work during קבלה?
  20. ProofA ברייתא includes slaughter and collection for פיגול
  21. QuestionShould pouring the leftover blood and burning the sacrificial parts also count?
  22. ResponseSprinkling is singled out to set the model
  23. ConclusionPouring leftover blood and burning fats are excluded